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bender
December 10th, 2012, 08:41 PM
Hi Dennis,
Tried playing one of my 1080p mkv files on the Samsung TV and KRR transcodes the file when I know from past experience that the Samsung PS63C7000 plasma plays it brilliantly via usb HDD.

If I turn transcoding off for the device (Samsung TV) then all I get is a stationary thumbnail on the screen.
Does my device file need alteration? The device set in KRR is to Samsung TV C/D/E-Series.
Here's the file information from within Kooraroo.


Video, DB: 96, Thumb: 859
S [h264, 28], bitrate: 0, framerate: 23.98, level: 40, profile: 100, flags: 0x0, flags2: 0x0


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ffmpeg version N-47402-g5e2be27 Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the FFmpeg developers
built on Dec 3 2012 15:16:02 with gcc 4.7.1 (GCC)
configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --arch=x86 --enable-gpl --enable-libx264 --enable-avisynth --target-os=mingw32 --cross-prefix=i686-w64-mingw32- --pkg-config=pkg-config --enable-libmp3lame --enable-version3 --extra-libs=-lws2_32 --enable-zlib --extra-libs=-lwinmm --extra-libs=-lgdi32 --enable-gnutls --enable-libass --enable-avresample --disable-w32threads --enable-runtime-cpudetect --disable-ffplay --disable-ffserver --enable-memalign-hack
libavutil 52. 11.101 / 52. 11.101
libavcodec 54. 78.101 / 54. 78.101
libavformat 54. 42.100 / 54. 42.100
libavdevice 54. 3.102 / 54. 3.102
libavfilter 3. 23.105 / 3. 23.105
libswscale 2. 1.103 / 2. 1.103
libswresample 0. 17.101 / 0. 17.101
libpostproc 52. 2.100 / 52. 2.100
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'E:\******.3D.2012.1080p.Half-SBS.mkv':
Metadata:
creation_time : 2010-11-05 11:34:31
Duration: 02:41:41.69, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 11389 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 1920x1080, SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9, 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn, 47.95 tbc (default)
Stream #0:1: Audio: dts (DTS), 48000 Hz, 5.1(side), fltp, 1536 kb/s (default)
At least one output file must be specified


From MediaInfo on the computer.

General
Unique ID : 184492338657166094991305400785322644188 (0x8ACBEE94788F4718A3B778E8742412DC)
Complete name : E:\******.3D.2012.1080p.Half-SBS.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 12.9 GiB
Duration : 2h 41mn
Overall bit rate : 11.4 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2010-11-05 11:34:31
Writing application : mkvmerge v4.3.0 ('Escape from the Island') gemaakt op Sep 5 2010 10:30:51
Writing library : libebml v1.0.0 + libmatroska v1.0.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.0
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate : 10 000 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.201
Stream size : 10.9 GiB (85%)
Writing library : x264 core 107 r1745 4785e8e
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=4 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=abr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10000 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / ip_ratio=1.41 / aq=1:1.00
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 2h 41mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.70 GiB (13%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Dennis
December 10th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Hi,

It looks like the file should be passed through natively. Can you please double-click on it in KRR, then go to Transcoding tab and delete all entries there. After that try playing it again and see if KRR still tries to transcode it.

Would you be able to send me a download link to this file via PM or support, so that I could test it here?

Also, if you have Samsung's server, does it play using that?

bender
December 11th, 2012, 07:13 AM
Hi,

It looks like the file should be passed through natively. Can you please double-click on it in KRR, then go to Transcoding tab and delete all entries there. After that try playing it again and see if KRR still tries to transcode it.


Thanks Dennis, it worked. Strangely enough, I checked all the other files on that usb hdd and no others had Transcoding set to on.

Dennis
December 11th, 2012, 07:16 AM
Thanks Dennis, it worked. Strangely enough, I checked all the other files on that usb hdd and no others had Transcoding set to on.

Interesting why it was transcoded originally. Was your TV auto-detected or did you have to manually set the profile?

bender
December 11th, 2012, 07:32 AM
Interesting why it was transcoded originally. Was your TV auto-detected or did you have to manually set the profile?

It was automatically detected. I was actually looking for C7000 device profile but C,D,E - Series is the closest to mine.

Interestingly, my parents have a 2010 (same year as mine) Samsung C550 plasma and it has failed to play some media that my C7000 plays easily.
So the 2010 "C" series don't seem to have the same media playback capabilities.

Dennis
December 11th, 2012, 07:51 AM
Yes, there are certain differences and I was meaning to create a new profile for those TVs. Perhaps I can do it with your help, if you don't mind and have some time? All I need is the "File Information" from KRR's GUI for the files that failed to play on your parents' TV (you can send it to support, if you prefer).

bender
December 11th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Yes, there are certain differences and I was meaning to create a new profile for those TVs. Perhaps I can do it with your help, if you don't mind and have some time? All I need is the "File Information" from KRR's GUI for the files that failed to play on your parents' TV (you can send it to support, if you prefer).

Yeah sure, I'll be seeing them this weekend but I'm not certain how many non-playing files I have left on my two usb hdds because I delete stuff all the time. There should be a couple there hopefully.

Dennis
December 11th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Yeah sure, I'll be seeing them this weekend but I'm not certain how many non-playing files I have left on my two usb hdds because I delete stuff all the time. There should be a couple there hopefully.

Great, thanks! Even if there's one file that you have, it's enough to make a discrete profile, but of course the more - the better.